Stop 419 Advance Fee Fraud

BlackAdder · 7 March 2012, 06:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodobird

Kumarov,

Please explain what you are trying to say here, because from my perspective, this sounds like a threat and we certainly do not welcome these.

Thank you for the info Dodobird, for warned is for armed thank you for the heads up, and it does sound like a threat..........

Dodobird · #**923** 7 March 2012, 06:17

BlackAdder,

I would like to know how you were able to provide these details. If you feel that it must remain confidential, please send me a private message.

Dodobird · #**924** 7 March 2012, 06:21

You're right Kumarov, anyone can post on this site, including someone registering with a US IP who comes back with a Russian one like you just did. We don't like threats here, and we don't like scammers....now you know why you're banned.

poirot · #**925** 7 March 2012, 06:38

A dozen scammers doing these Russian commodity frauds have been identified, all are West African criminals living in Russia, perhaps the scammer using fake name "Kumarov" would like to join the list at some point.

Scammers #1 and #2 are from Nigeria
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...ts&searchid=12

Scammer #3 is also from Nigeria
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...ts&searchid=12

Scammer #4 and #5 are from Ghana and Nigeria
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...ts&searchid=12

Scammer #6 is another one from Nigeria
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...p?e=99&catid=6

Scammer #7 is from Cameroon
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...?e=143&catid=3

Scammer #8 from Nigeria
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...ntry.php?e=179

Scammer #9 from Cameroon
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...?e=214&catid=3

Scammer #10 from Nigeria
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...ntry.php?e=225

Scammer #11 from Nigeria
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...?e=247&catid=6

Scammer #12 from Nigeria
http://www.419scammersexposed.com/da...?e=246&catid=6

poirot · #**926** 8 March 2012, 12:56

ALL FRAUDS from the same scammer

http://www.znno.com/Oao-Azot-Minerals
Oao Azot Minerals
Address: Varshavskoya Shosse, House 125 Moscow Moscow 117545 Russia
Zip/Postal Code:
Contact Person: Petrov A. Ivanovich
Phone: 7 - 495 - 6622199 / 74956622199
Cell/Mobile:
Fax: 74957303945
Email:
Website:www.azotminerals.ru
"AZOT MINERALS" is a large independent enterprise of Russian chemical industry, the only manufacturer of mineral fertilizers in Central Chernozemny Region. For more than a quarter of a century the company has been producing high quality products which merits are appreciated by both Russian farmers and multiple foreign landowners.

http://www.xpshou.com/wholesaler/con...k_company.html
Company Name: Joint Stock Company
Telephone Number: + 7(495) 755-3825 / 74957553825
Fax: +7 (495) 730-3945
Country: China

http://www.hotfrog.ru/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D.../Azot-Minerals
Azot Minerals
т.: + 7(495) 223-1891 / 74952231891
ф: +7 4957303945
http://www.azotminerals.ru

azotminerals.ru (no site)
Владелец домена: Private Person
Тел.:
Факс:
Email: olegp1981@yandex.ru
DNS сервера: ns1.spaceweb.ru.;ns2.spaceweb.ru.
Дата регистрации: 2009.06.15
Домен оплачен до: 2011.06.15
paid-till: 2012.06.15
free-date: 2012.07.16

http://utkaneft.en.ecplaza.net/
OAO Utkaneft Pererabotka
14/17 Leninsky Prospekt Street
Moscow, Moscow
Russian Federation 111435
Tel : 79652274865
Fax : 7-965-227-4865
Homepage : http://www.utkpererabotka-ru.ru
Contact :
Mr. Ruslann Chakov
Export Maneger, Sales Department
A Russian fully operating company which deals in supply, refinement, export of Crude Oil products and gives absolute good offer.

domain: UTKPERERABOTKA-RU.RU (no site)
nserver: ns1.hosting.reg.ru.
nserver: ns2.hosting.reg.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
person: Private Person
registrar: REGRU-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: http://www.reg.ru/whois/admin_contact
created: 2011.08.10
paid-till: 2012.08.10
free-date: 2012.09.10
source: TCI

poirot · #**927** 12 March 2012, 13:02

Russian oil scam facebook accounts

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...700139&sk=info
Oao Khoroshevskaya Energy
Works at Gazprom
e are end seller company with our refinery in Siberia. We refine and export Petroleum products and Crude Oil of Russian origin.
“OAO NGI Khoroshevskaya Energy” was incorporated in 1996
edepartment@mail.ru
.......................
http://india.xpshou.com/buyer/101697...an_supply.html
Mario J. Castellanos Director for Export & Foreign Operations Tel: +7925-141-8173. E-mail 1:edepartment@mail.ru. E-mail 2: exportd@mail.ru
.....................
http://www.yaphon.com/buyoffer_view/..._1766840_1.htm
We have 10.2 Inch Tablet PC/MID-Android
Mario J. Castellanos Director for Export & Foreign Operations Tel: + 7925-141-8173 Tel +44-703-590-6601 Fax + 44-709-287-1465 U.S.A +1-404-537-8697

Gazprom has confirmed they never use mandate sellers and all offers suggesting they do are scams, therefore...

http://www.facebook.com/business.deal.marketing?ref=pb
Mandate Buyer Seller
Lives in Moscow, Moscow City, Russia
(on hi wall)
Mandate Buyer Seller;
Available SPA GAZPROM D2, 500.000MT x 12 minus Gross USD 40 / Net USD 30 or Gross USD 25 / Net USD 30 , business.deal.marketing@gmail.com
Share · March 1 at 10:48am

sahat koeng · #**928** 14 April 2012, 01:27

Dear All/friends & Traders,

I am representing a consultant company and have been in this line (trying to broker a deal between buyer and seller) with Russian petroleum products. Up to now I have never come across a genuine broker, mandate or worst still seller/prducer. What more genuine capable buyer are hard to come by and if there is I feel very sad that the deal cannot go through because there is no I repeat NO Genuine Seller. So how do I get GENUINE SELLER. Even the producers that I contacted refuse to reply my letter of intent from my buyer.

Until recently I introduce 3 (three) yes 3 companies who are able and willing to purchase up to 500,000 metric ton of D2 per month X 12 months with possible roll overs, to one supplier after another following my strict terms and procedures.

Initially they are willing to follow, no up front payment, but when full POP are to be issued they ask for payment, supposely for 50% shipping charges, dip test payment and so on and so forth untill I told them to get lost.

Wow they threatened that they will sue my buyer for breach of contract and I on the other hand counter that I will report their activities to INTERPOL and to their Embassy in my country and that their company will be black listed in the internet. After they reason out to me, I gave them the benefit of the doubt.

Even now my Buyer is in the middle of a deal with 3 suppliers which I am having second thought that is why I have no choice but to consult my friends if any in this site for their valuable advice.

Name Of Company: 1. OSMK Gas & Oil.
Director General - Mr Popov Poris Ivanovich
Adress; Piatniskaya House 17A, Moscow, Russia
Introducer: Mihail Bikov-

2. OJSC Taimyrgaz
Manager director:Mr Gorohovsky V.A.
Address: 22, Voznesensky Per.,103009, Moscow,Russia
Introducer: Aleksie Pandeko - Pandeko Consult

3. OOO Tuva Neft Gaz
Manager Director: Mr Viktov Zukanov
Address: 45332/106,6B Treskaya, Moscow, Russia
Introducer: Information Desk.

The above mentioned companies are about to receive SBLC from my buyers but I put them on hold until I can get a clear picture about their activities. Up to now they are giving me a lot of excuses but until I really can get a good picture only then I will instruct my buyers to prceed.

*Deleted. Such request are against our guidelines

Thank you,

S Koeng

poirot · #**929** 14 April 2012, 03:44

Do not request genuine companies on our forum, we deal strictly with fraud, we are not a business site. Please read the following for further details: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...ead.php?t=9822

After doing preliminary Google searches, they all look like scams but in order to get a more precise answer you need to include all their contact details such as email addresses and phone numbers on which you have successfully contacted them. But Most important is, what are their web sites? If they don't have any then it's most probably a scam.

poirot · #**930** 14 April 2012, 04:09

http://www.taimyrgaz.com
OJSC Taimyrgaz
tel: +7 495 997 6108
fax: +7 495 997 6101
admin@taimyrgaz.com

The domain was registered only two months ago, typical scam web site.

Domain Name: TAIMYRGAZ.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.WIX.COM
Name Server: NS2.WIX.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 08-feb-2012
Creation Date: 08-feb-2012
Expiration Date: 08-feb-2013

OSMK Gas & Oil" doesn't exist
OMSK does have a site and it's a scam that's already been exposed: http://www.omskgasoil.ru

commodityman · 16 April 2012, 03:10

I am very pleased to have discovered this site. I have been offered some fuel by an allocation holder who tells me that the fuel originates from this refinery (http://www.nestro.ru).

There are a number of aspects that I need to investigate further, but one of the things that has raised suspicion is the need to make an advance payment to KOMI Inland Revenue.

I have been told that this "clearance tax amount" is required by the refinery in advance to demonstrate good faith, but don't see that this should be a buyer requirement, if it is needed at all it should be a commitment of the seller it seems to me.

There is a statement saying that this sum will be refunded upon the first lifting... has anyone else any experience either with this refinery or the Komi Inland Revenue payment system?

Thanks in advance.

mysteryquest · #**932** 16 April 2012, 06:46

It's a scam, plain and simple. Any request for an advance fee always is and any promise that it will be refunded is just made to give you false assurance. There is no such thing as a "clearance tax amount". Please read: Russian Oil Company Scam How is this advance fee supposed to be paid, to whom and how much? Please post the contact details of the persons you have been dealing with.

commodityman · #**933** 16 April 2012, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysteryquest

It's a scam, plain and simple. Any request for an advance fee always is and any promise that it will be refunded is just made to give you false assurance. There is no such thing as a "clearance tax amount". Please read: Russian Oil Company Scam How is this advance fee supposed to be paid, to whom and how much? Please post the contact details of the persons you have been dealing with.

The advance payment is described as "THE CLEARANCE TAX AMOUNT OF $345,036 ( $169.904 FOR THE JP54 & 175.132 FOR THE D2)WILL BE FULLY REFUNDED AFTER THE FIRST LIFT OF PRODUCT COMMENCES, BECAUSE THE REFINERY HAS RUN INTO POTENTIAL NON-PERFORMERS, THE REFINERY HAS ASKED FOR THE REFUNDABLE FEE TO SHOW GOOD FAITH."

I can find no independent evidence to suggest that this refinery exists, although I have received scanned documentation on a Joint Stock Company letterhead indicating proof of product, proof of allocation etc etc.

Areas of concern that pricked my attention include:

1. The refinery (as described to me) seems to be located in Komi, a region southwest of the Urals and some distance from the port of loading (Nakhodka on the Sea of Japan)

2. The Bank mentioned in the proof of product documents (Russian Development Bank) doesn't seem to have any presence

3. The Upfront payment and my inability to identify the Komi Inland Revenue anywhere online

There are other inconsistencies...

The introducers told me that they have already paid the sum of $180k + to the Ministry of Energy for the Allocation and Transaction Codes and in the event that I discover this to be untrue I will name them here. It may well be that they are the ones who have been scammed.

The refinery details I have been given can be found here:http://www.nestro.ru/www/nestroweb.n...pr_contact_eng

poirot · #**934** 16 April 2012, 09:27

The whole thing is a fraud. The refinery may be legit but for someone to merely mention that the oil is from a certain refinery is meaningless, scammers make those false claims all the time.

"Komi Inland Revenue payment system" is a crock. Scammers where previously calling it "Komi Energy Ministry Association of Oil and Gas" until we exposed it as a fraud. They have since abandon their web site komirep.ru Both where invented by scammers as a conduit for their advance fee frauds. Details posted here:http://www.cybercrimeops.com/forums/...=43259&page=17

Quote:

I have been told that this "clearance tax amount" is required by the refinery in advance to demonstrate good faith,

Classic advance fee fraud, something you should have detected if you are trading commodities. Such trading doesn't rest on vague gesture of good faith, but rather on a proper due diligence.
As Mysteryquest stated, all such request for advance fees are scams. I strongly recommend you read the link he suggested.

commodityman · #**935** 16 April 2012, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by poirot

The whole thing is a fraud. The refinery may be legit but for someone to merely mention that the oil is from a certain refinery is meaningless, scammers make those false claims all the time.

"Komi Inland Revenue payment system" is a crock. Scammers where previously calling it "Komi Energy Ministry Association of Oil and Gas" until we exposed it as a fraud. They have since abandon their web site komirep.ru Both where invented by scammers as a conduit for their advance fee frauds. Details posted here: http://www.cybercrimeops.com/forums/...=43259&page=17

Classic advance fee fraud, something you should have detected if you are trading commodities. Such trading doesn't rest on vague gesture of good faith, but rather on a proper due diligence.
As Mysteryquest stated, all such request for advance fees are scams. I strongly recommend you read the link he suggested.

Thanks very much for your help, I have blown it out now... as mentioned I was suspicious all along...

The introducer is a company called SUMINISTRO PETROLERO DEL CARIBE (Supeca Oil) an organisation I haven't dealt with before. They may be ok, but in the context of this transaction I'd recommend that others are careful.

Dodobird · #**936** 16 April 2012, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by commodityman

The introducer is a company called SUMINISTRO PETROLERO DEL CARIBE (Supeca Oil) an organisation I haven't dealt with before. They may be ok, but in the context of this transaction I'd recommend that others are careful.

Commodityman, please post their entire contact details. My feeling is that you were in contact with scammers impersonating a legitimate business from the beginning.

commodityman · #**937** 17 April 2012, 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodobird

Commodityman, please post their entire contact details. My feeling is that you were in contact with scammers impersonating a legitimate business from the beginning.

Venezuela Office: Edif.Jardín Las Mercedes Of.5D,
Calle Caroní ,Colinas de Bello Monte,
Caracas-Venezuela
Phone: (58212) 7536896 Mobil: (58416) 011.9838

MR. JORGE PLAZA COLORADO, PRESIDENT, CEO
MR. RALPH VALENTE, COMPANY MANDATE

Dodobird · #**938** 17 April 2012, 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by commodityman

Venezuela Office: Edif.Jardín Las Mercedes Of.5D,
Calle Caroní ,Colinas de Bello Monte,
Caracas-Venezuela
Phone: (58212) 7536896 Mobil: (58416) 011.9838

MR. JORGE PLAZA COLORADO, PRESIDENT, CEO
MR. RALPH VALENTE, COMPANY MANDATE

Commodityman,

Were you in contact with them uniquely by phone, or was email also involved? If so, please post the email address as well. How did you come into contact with them?

poirot · #**939** 17 April 2012, 03:41

The Russian elements of your offer are a scam. As far as the Venezuela mandate it's difficult to say. As you stated

Quote:

Originally Posted by commodityman

They may be ok, but in the context of this transaction I'd recommend that others are careful.

Scammers regularly recruit innocent traders as mandate who in turn find buyers for the scammer.

mysteryquest · #**940** 17 April 2012, 05:07

http://www.taimyrgaz.com Dead

vladimirsk35 · #**941** 17 April 2012, 17:00

Dear members / admin

I would like to start business with Russian products
and in the moment make negotiation with those companies

http://sib-plaz.ru/

http://omk-ecometal.ru/

http://ruzamjsc.ru/

Could you please help me with exploring
do this company official websites are legal

or scam

Thank you
Vladimir

poirot · #**942** 18 April 2012, 04:05

All three are fakes, they where all created in the last few weeks in spite of the claims of existing for years, plus most of the content is copied from other sites.

The following article would have shown you that instantly, I highly recommend you read it... Identifying Obvious Scammers and Their Websites

ruzamjsc.ru is already exposed here: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...oil.ru&page=46

Quote:

domain: OMK-ECOMETAL.RU
nserver: ns1.hosting.reg.ru.
nserver: ns2.hosting.reg.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
org: OMK EcoMetal
registrar: REGRU-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: http://www.reg.ru/whois/admin_contact
created: 2012.02.01
paid-till: 2013.02.01
free-date: 2013.03.04
source: TCI
.......................
http://omk-ecometal.ru
For export sales
E-mail : info@omk-ecometal.ru
Tel: 7499390 37 16
Fax: 7 499 390 37 18
sales@omk-ecometal.ru
export@omk-ecometal.ru
legal@omk-ecometal.ru
operations@omk-ecometal.ru
presscentre@omk-ecometal.ru

Quote:

domain: SIB-PLAZ.RU
nserver: ns1.spaceweb.ru.
nserver: ns2.spaceweb.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, VERIFIED
person: Private Person
registrar: R01-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: https://partner.r01.ru/contact_admin.khtml
created: 2012.03.05
paid-till: 2013.03.05
free-date: 2013.04.05
source: TCI
...........
http://sib-plaz.ru
650002, Kemerovo Region, Kemerovo City, Institutskaya Street, 1
Sales office Address in Moscow:
107045, Moscow, Pechatnikov Lane, House 6, Russian Federation.
Tel: +7 (499) 390-37-96
Fax: +7 (499) 390-38-41.
Email Addresses:
export@sib-plaz.ru
info@sib-plaz.ru
legal@sib-plaz.ru

vladimirsk35 · #**943** 18 April 2012, 13:00

Dear All

Thank you

Could you please see

http://omk.ru/

As a Main web where is on some page written that omk eko metal is part of omk

please answer

mysteryquest · #**944** 18 April 2012, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by vladimirsk35

Dear All

Thank you

Could you please see

http://omk.ru/

As a Main web where is on some page written that omk eko metal is part of omk

please answer

If you are being contacted by a company that wishes to sell you oil or metal you need to give us all the contact information about that company if we are going to help you. Scammers use the websites of legitimate companies all the time so simply giving us a website to look is not helpful.

terryidc · #**945** 18 April 2012, 15:11

Unfortunately this company turned out to be a scam. First they refused to honor the cif price and insisted the buyer has to pay freight to the destination port.
After signing a contract they wanted the buyer to use an unknown shipping company because they said this was dictated by the Ministry of Transportation and Energy. They wanted the buyer to pay the shipping company US$1.2 million prior to providing pop, p.b. etc.
When the buyer refused to do that and asked to include the freight as an adder to bill, they turned it down. Finally they agreed to let the buyer get their own ship but when the buyer tried to do a bank to bank preadvice and wanted to confirm if the bank had the proof of product, as per contract the bank information provided by the seller proved to be false.
Upon questioning, the seller provided a Chinese bank ,which was not an account in the sellers name and they also did not have the proof of product.But the seller insisted on the buyer sending the sblc (under totally different verbiage and conditions then per contract).
All of this involved over six months of time. Through some relations in a Embassy in Russia, we learnt that this was a total fake.

vladimirsk35 · #**946** 18 April 2012, 18:25

Dear All Thank you
Please when you have time write

1. I was try to write directly to www.omk.ru
which seems to be a regular and government listed company
to answer me do the http://omk-ecometal.ru/ and
info@omk-ecometal.ru is a valid still wait answers ...

2. For the other company http://sib-plaz.ru/
according all informations that company is really what is write on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibplaz

And in other external links СИБПЛАЗ etc ... that is created from Russian academy of mining sciences

Just im scared because there web is very soon created

Please if you could help

vladimirsk35 · #**947** 18 April 2012, 18:29

Did you write for some of companies i ask for help in my topic?

please

vladimirsk35 · #**948** 18 April 2012, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by vladimirsk35

Did you write for some of companies i ask for help in my topic?

please

I was write this to
terryidc

sahat koeng · #**949** 18 April 2012, 19:22

Dear Mr Poirot,

I refer to quires some days back and would like to thank you very much for the advice which have been a great help to me and my Buyer. Although I felt quite embarrass by the failed deal but am happy that I prevent my Buyer from loosing money which is quite a sum if release.

Now I am writing letter of intent direct to the refineries and am waiting for their reply. Hopefully they will entertain me and my Buyer for their future long lasting customers.

Again thank you very much, regards,

Sahat Koeng.

mysteryquest · #**950** 18 April 2012, 19:38

@vladimirsk35

Well http://omk-ecometal.ru is a scam website. It was registered February 1, 2012 In other words, there is no such refinery or company! It has already been identified as a scam in this post here:http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...&postcount=910

domain: OMK-ECOMETAL.RU
nserver: ns1.hosting.reg.ru.
nserver: ns2.hosting.reg.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
org: OMK EcoMetal
registrar: REGRU-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: http://www.reg.ru/whois/admin_contact
created: 2012.02.01
paid-till: 2013.02.01
free-date: 2013.03.04
source: TCI

http://www.sib-plaz.ru is also a scam site. Which means there is no such refinery or company. Scammers have put up this site to scam you.

650002, Kemerovo Region, Kemerovo City, Institutskaya Street, 1
Sales office Address in Moscow:
107045, Moscow, Pechatnikov Lane, House 6, Russian Federation.

Tel: +7 (499) 390-37-96
Fax: +7 (499) 390-38-41.
export@sib-plaz.ru
info@sib-plaz.ru
legal@sib-plaz.ru

domain: SIB-PLAZ.RU
nserver: ns1.spaceweb.ru.
nserver: ns2.spaceweb.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, VERIFIED
person: Private Person
registrar: R01-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: https://partner.r01.ru/contact_admin.khtml
created: 2012.03.05
paid-till: 2013.03.05
free-date: 2013.04.05
source: TCI

Anyone who you are dealing with connected with either of these websites is a scammer. This field is full of them and if you are going to consider dealing you had better some due diligence or you will lose your money!

If you are even going to think about doing business in this field, the least you will have to do is Google! That's the least! Please read: Russian Oil Company Scam and Identifying Obvious Scammers and Their Websites

Nexus33 · 2 May 2012, 23:27

Greetings all,

Please assist us. Can we know if this company from Russian is really genuine? HIM METAL COMPANY
E-mail: info_himmetal@mail.ru

Really looking forward for assistance.

Thank you
Nexx

poirot · #**952** 3 May 2012, 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexus33

Greetings all,

Please assist us. Can we know if this company from Russian is really genuine? HIM METAL COMPANY
E-mail: info_himmetal@mail.ru

Really looking forward for assistance.

Thank you
Nexx

Please don't post duplicate questions as that only gives us extra work in cleaning them out.

info_himmetal@mail.ru is a scam. You don't enter into such important deals with an email address from a free (anonymous) provider "mail.ru"

http://ask.alibaba.com/Q/800329169-Manufacture.html

Quote:

Dear:Sir/Madam
We have got information of supplier:
Himmetal company in Russia.
Address:Moscow Region,Urban district Khimki,Kirova street 24
Email: info_himmetal@mail.ru / export@himmetal.ru
They asking us to pay the sum of 78,935 USD to a group called Association of Russian Mineral & Energy Marketers(ARMEMRUSSI) for legitimate purchase of scrap metal from Russia Federation.
Before proceeding,as their procedures
We are serious buyer,we will go ahead if it's true.But if it's not true,then we will loose our money.

Quote:

domain: HIMMETAL.RU
nserver: ns23.himmetal.ru. 184.22.225.59
nserver: ns24.himmetal.ru. 184.22.225.60
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
org: Obshchestvo s ogranichennoi otvetstvennostyu "KHIMMETAL"
registrar: REGRU-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: http://www.reg.ru/whois/admin_contact
created: 2012.01.31
paid-till: 2013.01.31
free-date: 2013.03.03
source: TCI

There is no web site and as you see, the domain was registered very recently which indicates a scam.

Please read the following so that you may detect such scams on your own in the future since you will have to learn to do your own due diligence... Identifying Obvious Scam Websites

To educate yourself on these commodities frauds, please read Russian Oil Product Import/Export Scam

sahat koeng · #**953** 4 May 2012, 01:25

Dear Sir,

Please tell whether this companys with below email address are fake;-

* barth egbo <baroknig@yahoo.com>
>>> *To: *<romaini65@gmail.com>
<princeobiegbo@yahoo.com>
kuzovov_vs@ojscsurgutneftegas.ru
ibekud@hotmail.com
yuri yaroslav <yuri.yaroslav@mail.ru
danseloil@mail.ru
NAME :Carl Hamer
DESIGNATION:President
COMPANY :Potad International Consultants LLC
CITY :Irvington
COUNTRY :United States
SENT FROM :UNITED STATES

Your information to the above is much appreciated and will help plenty would be buyers (agents)

Regards,

SK 1945

poirot · #**954** 4 May 2012, 03:17

ojscsurgutneftegas.ru is a fraud the domain is barely a few weeks old and they haven't even bother to upload a web site.

You could have easily detected this obvious fraud on your own if you had taken time to read the two links I mentioned in my last post. Please read them, it will protect you from such scams

Quote:

domain: OJSCSURGUTNEFTEGAS.RU
nserver: ns1.mchost.ru.
nserver: ns2.mchost.ru.
nserver: ns3.mchost.ru.
nserver: ns4.mchost.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
person: Private Person
registrar: REGTIME-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: http://whois.webnames.ru
created: 2012.03.15
paid-till: 2013.03.15
free-date: 2013.04.15
source: TCI

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahat koeng

Dear Sir,

Please tell whether this companys with below email address are fake;-

* barth egbo <baroknig@yahoo.com>
>>> *To: *<romaini65@gmail.com>
<princeobiegbo@yahoo.com>
kuzovov_vs@ojscsurgutneftegas.ru
ibekud@hotmail.com
yuri yaroslav <yuri.yaroslav@mail.ru
danseloil@mail.ru
NAME : Carl Hamer
DESIGNATION: President
COMPANY : Potad International Consultants LLC
CITY : Irvington
COUNTRY : United States
SENT FROM : UNITED STATES

Your information to the above is much appreciated and will help plenty would be buyers (agents)

Regards,

SK 1945

katielee · #**955** 4 May 2012, 13:17

Dear Sir/Madam,

Is there a company called "Allied Petrochemical Trading and Distribution LLC" ?

I checked from internet, but there are too many different websites showing different contact information of this company, and finally there is one website claims that they are the official website of the company

http://www.aptdllc.com/

but, there is only a page from this website. Please anyone can tell me:

1) if this company do exist?
2) Did anyone trade with this company?
3) And actually i m not sure what's this company from, Russia/ Ukraine?
4) Is the above website really the official website of this company??

Many thanks!!

Katie

poirot · #**956** 5 May 2012, 04:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by katielee

http://www.aptdllc.com/

but, there is only a page from this website.

And there's not even an address, plus the site was registered in China less than 18 months ago

Quote:

Domain Name: aptdllc.com
Registrar: Name.com LLC
Expiration Date: 2012-11-26 20:22:00
Creation Date: 2010-11-26 20:22:00
Name Servers:
ns1.domain-resolution.net
ns2.domain-resolution.net
ns3.domain-resolution.net
ns4.domain-resolution.net
REGISTRANT CONTACT INFO
Sean Lyu
Sean Lyu
No.38, Da Cheng San Dao Jie.
Harbin
Heilongjiang
150001
CN
Phone: +86.1393667329
Email Address: mailto: tookiq@gmail.com

These are the sole contact details
http://www.aptdllc.com/

Quote:

Email: allied@aptdllc.com
Tel: +7-495-9362701
Fax: +7-495-9362755

The same ph#'s where used with a different name and that's another red flag
http://адре&...D%D1%82/199972

Quote:

ПЕТРОСЕРВИС ГАРАНТ, МОСКВА
Адрес 121170, МОСКВА, УЛ ПОКЛОННАЯ, Д 11, СТР 6
Телефон ПЕТРОСЕРВИС ГАРАНТ (495) 9362755 , (495) 9362701
.....translation.....
Petroservice Garant, MOSCOW
Address 121170, st bow, D 11, PAGE 6
Phone Petroservice GUARANTOR (495) 9362755, (495) 9362701

We can only look for red flags, you'll have to do your own due diligence before embarking on such a trade. I suggest these links to start
Identifying Obvious Scam Websites

To educate yourself on these commodities frauds, please read... CLICK==> Russian Oil Product Import/Export Scam

sourcing · #**957** 6 May 2012, 03:34

WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT ON SIBOIL .. true or SCAM?

Thanks,

James

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watson6253

Hi, after getting some offers from the underlisted suppliers for mazut m100, d2 and jp54. I am not really convinced that they are genuine. Pls could you help me check their authenticity?

RUSS PLANT OIL AND GAS (Russian Oil Scam)
Ref №: RS/759/O867/AGR
Address: Moscow 119034 Russia, Enthusiastov Highway., D 17 / 1
Tel: +7 (495) 542 64 98/Fax: +7 (495) 361 81 92
Email: info@russplantoilandgas.ru, export@russplantoilandgas.ru,
sales@russplantoilandgas.ru,<a href=...landgas.ru</a>
ATTENTION TO END BUYER COMPANY/BUYER MANDATE.
Via: CLAFTNEFT LLC
(Seller’s Mandate) Represented by: MR.IVAN.A.M

SIBOIL REFINERY (Russian Oil Scam)
To: Uralneft
17th February 2012 to 17th March 2012
Our Ref .: RU- 407231/SIB/624
4 sadovnicheskaya st.,113035 moscow, russia
sales@siboilrefinery.ru
www.siboilrefinery.ru

Also, what is the best way to go about when sourcing for reputable dealers? is there any body or authority who can furnish you with details of reputable companies? Thank you

poirot · #**958** 6 May 2012, 04:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by sourcing

WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT ON SIBOIL .. true or SCAM?

Thanks,

James

Siboil is a fraud, as mentioned in the reply to the post you quoted

siboilrefinery.ru is a FRAUD

Quote:

SIBOIL REFINERY (Russian Oil Scam)
To: Uralneft
17th February 2012 to 17th March 2012
Our Ref .: RU- 407231/SIB/624
4 sadovnicheskaya st.,113035 moscow, russia
sales@siboilrefinery.ru
www.siboilrefinery.ru

ninji · #**959** 6 May 2012, 07:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by poirot

Lukoil.com is the legitimate company that had content of their web site illegally copied by yasnotekoil.com

The individual who registered yasnotekoil.com also registered multiple scam domains including fake Russian Government domain rugogam.ru

Saputro claiming to be in Malaysia actually posted from Russia. www.yasnotekoil.com is a FRAUD and Saputro is a scammer.

Great work Mr. P; Please keep informing us of these people. I have had several deals fall through because of these idiots over the past few years. and I have had many many many offers from fake sellers or suppliers or whatever they wish to call themselves.

Thank you again fro the great work.

mysteryquest · #**960** 6 May 2012, 09:19

@ ninji It is imperative that you read these articles thoroughly so that you can pick out a scam yourself and you don't even enter into any "deals" with scammers. Identifying Obvious Scammers and Their Websites andRussian Oil Company Scam
They should help you sniff out a scam immediately and save you a lot of trouble and reduce the great risk involved in transacting in this business.

ninji · #**961** 6 May 2012, 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysteryquest

@ ninji It is imperative that you read these articles thoroughly so that you can pick out a scam yourself and you don't even enter into any "deals" with scammers. Identifying Obvious Scammers and Their Websites and Russian Oil Company Scam
They should help you sniff out a scam immediately and save you a lot of trouble and reduce the great risk involved in transacting in this business.

Thank you also for all of your hard work and deliberation in these matters Mr MQ. I do hope to successfully close one of these deals that cross my desk with the knowledge I am learning form these threads.

aurus · #**962** 8 May 2012, 04:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by vladimirsk35

Dear members / admin

I would like to start business with Russian products
and in the moment make negotiation with those companies

http://sib-plaz.ru

Could you please help me with exploring
do this company official websites are legal

or scam

Thank you Vladimir

The Sibplaz Company received a pre-payment from our company in the amount of 6.3 million rubles. ($ 210,000) for oil. The company did not ship the Product. The Court has arrested Sibplaz bank accounts:
http://s019.radikal.ru/i633/1204/a3/95b18cae6361.jpg
The sum of money on six bank accounts was only 2300 rubles ($76)
http://s018.radikal.ru/i518/1204/54/6c7eb0d964dd.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i602/1204/3c/f3c1d998d0cc.jpg
http://s019.radikal.ru/i602/1204/3c/f3c1d998d0cc.jpg

As it turned out later - Sibplaz didn't even plan the delivery, the money had been stolen!

mysteryquest · #**963** 9 May 2012, 21:59

There is only one real website for the Russian Oil Ministry and that is www.minenergo.gov.ru All others are frauds!

Russian ministry of energy and industry (Minpromenergo)
http://www.ruminei.ru (Fraudulent Website)
Address: Moscow, 109074, Kitajjgorodskijj pr., d. 7
Telephone/Fax: +7 (499) 500-9792
Email: info@ruminei.ru

domain: RUMINEI.RU
nserver: ns1.spaceweb.ru.
nserver: ns2.spaceweb.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, VERIFIED
org: OOO Minpromenergo
registrar: R01-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: https://partner.r01.ru/contact_admin.khtml
created: 2012.02.20
paid-till: 2013.02.20
free-date: 2013.03.23
source: TCI

Russian Ministry of Energy and Industry
www.rumenergi.ru (Fraudulent Website)
113045, Sadovnicheskaya St.10 Moscow, Russia
Telephone/Fax: +7 (499) 998-15-59
info@rumenergi.ru
support@rumenergi.ru
admin@rumenergi.ru

domain: RUMENERGI.RU
nserver: ns1.rumenergi.ru. 184.22.225.59
nserver: ns2.rumenergi.ru. 184.22.225.60
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
person: Private Person
registrar: REGRU-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: http://www.reg.ru/whois/admin_contact
created: 2011.12.05
paid-till: 2012.12.05
free-date: 2013.01.05
source: TCI

Both of these scam sites are clones from this scam site:
http://www.minenergi.ru which exposed here: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...&postcount=739

Please read: Identifying Obvious Scammers and Their Websites and Russian Oil Company Scam

mysteryquest · #**964** 10 May 2012, 07:17

There is only one real website for the Russian Oil Ministry and that is www.minenergo.gov.ru All others are frauds!

Russian Ministry of Oil Natural Gas Exploration
http://www.ruminonge.ru (Fraudulent Website)
Address: 109012, Moscow, Rozjestvinka Street 17 biulding
Telephone: +7 (495) 978-0810
Fax: +7 (495) 978-9128, +7 (495) 978-9038
E-Mail: info@ruminonge.ru
administration@ruminonge.ru
registration@ruminonge.ru
legal@ruminonge.ru

domain: RUMINONGE.RU
nserver: ns1.netfirms.com.
nserver: ns2.netfirms.com.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, VERIFIED
org: MARCARIA.COM Corp.
registrar: RU-CENTER-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: https://www.nic.ru/whois
created: 2011.12.23
paid-till: 2012.12.23
free-date: 2013.01.23
source: TCI

Please read: Identifying Obvious Scammers and Their Websites and Russian Oil Company Scam

poirot · #**965** 10 May 2012, 09:28

The Agency of the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation (Russian Ministry of Energy)
http://minienergo.ru
107997, г. Москва, ул. Щепкина, дом 40
Information Service of the Agency
Tel: +7 (926) 002-3875
Fax: +7 (926) 002-3876
Electronic mail: info@minienergo.ru
Agency Head of Operations
minienergo@minienergo.ru
Notary and Legal Department of the Agency
notary@minienergo.ru
legal@minienergo.ru
For more informations on our news updates and questions,
Contact Press Centre
novosti@minienergo.ru

domain: MINIENERGO.RU
nserver: ns1.hosting.reg.ru.
nserver: ns2.hosting.reg.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
org: Minenergo AGENTSTVO
registrar: REGRU-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: http://www.reg.ru/whois/admin_contact
created: 2012.02.20
paid-till: 2013.02.20
free-date: 2013.03.23
source: TCI

Please read: Identifying Obvious Scammers and Their Websites and Russian Oil Company Scam

poirot · #**966** 19 May 2012, 05:30

FRAUD

http://www.tradekey.com/company/zane...c-2161489.html

Quote:

Zanelemka Trading Cc
LOOKING FOR A SERIOUS AND CREDIBLE BUYER/MANDATE TO INQUIRE ABOUT OUR PRODUCT.
IF YOU ARE REAL THEN YOU CAN SEND A MAIL TO REAL SELLER FOR UPDATES ON OUR PRODUCTS.
PRESENTLY WE ARE WORKING WITH A MANDATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY IN THE RUSSIAN REPUBLIC, THEREFORE WE WILL LIKE YOU SEND ANY OF YOUR BUY LEADS TO US FOR A GOOD OFFER. PRESENTLY THE MANDATE IS WORKING WITH ROSNEFT AND GAZPROM.
IF YOU ARE INTRERESTED YOU CAN SEND A BUY LEAD TO US FOR OFFERS.
REGARDS
Contact Person : Mr. richard ofoegbu (Consulting)
Company :
zanelemka trading cc
Address:
CLAIM, JHB, GAUTENG, South Africa
Zip/Postal : 2001
Telephone : 27-72-5389596
Fax : 27-86-6063593
Mobile : 27-822929596

One more confirmation that this is an advance fee fraud
http://zanelemkatradingcc.blogspot.c...-products.html

Quote:

zanelemka trading cc
Scam have dominated the internet market due to the fact that the Russian Gov Have requested every buyer to pay for a notary fee then the scammers see it as an opportunity for them to
swindle money out from the genue buyer.

sahat koeng · #**967** 23 May 2012, 01:42

Dear sir,

I have tried to check on this company and person but I came to a dead end, will appreciate if you can help me. Their web page seems legit but their phone number is from Moscow and other. The name as follows:-

JSC Zarubezhneft
Building 1/9/1/1 Armiansky Perealok
101990 Moscow, Russian Fed.
tel: 7(925)815 9414 / 495 748 65 00
fax: (495)748 65 05 / 956 14 91
email: info-zarubezhneft@mail.ru; nestro.nestro@mail.ru
Contact Person: NIKOLAY G. BRUNICH- General director.

Please tell me whether they are fake or real Seller/agent.

thanking you in advance,

Sahat koeng

mysteryquest · #**968** 23 May 2012, 02:43

They are using a free email address which no legitimate company would use. That's a huge red flag. What is their website. If they don't have one, that's another huge red flag. Please read:http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...pg=fw_scamsite

sahat koeng · #**969** 23 May 2012, 03:02

Dear sir,
I think I have found the lead to the above mentioned company.
The Company Zarubezhneft JSC IS REAL. Their Director General Mr. Nikolay G Brunich is real.
They seemed to be legitimate. But FCO that the agent issue in the name of the company is questionable. I cannot tell whether they are fake or real. Whether they are send from the real company or not I could not tell until I go direct to them at their true address.
Anyway Thank you very much.

Regards,

SK 1945

Dodobird · #**970** 23 May 2012, 03:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahat koeng

JSC Zarubezhneft
Building 1/9/1/1 Armiansky Perealok
101990 Moscow, Russian Fed.
tel: 7(925)815 9414 / 495 748 65 00
fax: (495)748 65 05 / 956 14 91
email: info-zarubezhneft@mail.ru; nestro.nestro@mail.ru
Contact Person: NIKOLAY G. BRUNICH- General director.

While the company may be real, the free webmail addresses indicate that you're in contact with scammers impersonating them.

poirot · 23 May 2012, 13:27

FRAUD

http://www.ojscoilmagma.ru/

Quote:

Copyright 2007 by "Ojsc Magma Oil " All Rights reserved E-mail: postmaster@ojscoilmagma.ru
OJSC Magma Oil Company is one of the leading crude and refined oil producers and marketers in the south-eastern region of Russia,

Quote:

domain: OJSCOILMAGMA.RU
nserver: ns3.nic.ru.
nserver: ns4.nic.ru.
nserver: ns8.nic.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
org: Jsc Magma
registrar: RU-CENTER-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: https://www.nic.ru/whois
created: 2011.11.01
paid-till: 2012.11.01
free-date: 2012.12.02
source: TCI

russiandeal · #**972** 28 May 2012, 12:49

Hello ,

I have in hand This offer:http://www.2shared.com/document/3hRq...ffer_2nd_.htmlù

This Offer PResented to me Trought Mandate, Im Starting to do A deal with this Company,Anyone Can help me to See if it is real Company or Fake?
OOO OIL GROUP
No. 4 Vasilebskaya Str 123056,
Moscow Russian Federation
Telephone: +7 495 9713279
Facsimile: +7 495 9713278
Email: contact@oilgrupp.com
WWW: http://www.oilgrupp.com
OGRN: 1057748485992

Thanks

mysteryquest · #**973** 28 May 2012, 12:54

Well there are obviously scammers.

Domain Name: OILGRUPP.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS.COM CO.
Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net
Name Server: NS1.IPOWER.COM
Name Server: NS2.IPOWER.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 30-jan-2012
Creation Date: 30-jan-2012
Expiration Date: 30-jan-2013

No real oil company has been in business only 6 months. Please read:http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...pg=fw_scamsite andhttp://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...ad.php?t=49813

poirot · #**974** 28 May 2012, 15:04

There is no such thing as so-called mandate of major Russian oil companies, all such offers are scams. You'll find that information in the links given to you my Mysteryquest.

http://oilgrupp.com/
OIL GROUP LTD Тел: +79015478279 / +7901-5478279

-guest- · #**975** 29 May 2012, 12:34

Sirs
We would like to know if somebody has any information about this company.
www.rostekenergo.ru
We hav been requested to send ICPO for purchase of Urea.
We would like to know if this company REAL or another scam.
Thank you for your help

poirot · #**976** 29 May 2012, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Guest-

Sirs
We would like to know if somebody has any information about this company.
www.rostekenergo.ru
We hav been requested to send ICPO for purchase of Urea.
We would like to know if this company REAL or another scam.
Thank you for your help

rostekenergo.ru is just another scam / FAKE oil company

http://www.rostekenergo.ru/about/

Quote:

Tel/Fax: + 7(495) 504 93 06
sales@rostekenergo.ru
info@rostekenergo.ru
reg-dept@rostekenergo.ru
ROSTEKENERGO is 70% owned by the state with 30% with the Board of Directors of the company. The company is a division of ATSENERGO which is 100% state owned enterprise that deals on petrochemical and petroleum products of Russian origin.

A major oil company mainly owned by the Russian Government without the few dollars needed to purchase a dedicated fax line?
Also, such companies don't appear out of the blue the way ROSTEKENERGO.RU did - it was registered just a few months ago..

Quote:

domain: ROSTEKENERGO.RU
nserver: ns1.hosting.reg.ru.
nserver: ns2.hosting.reg.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
person: Private Person
registrar: REGRU-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: http://www.reg.ru/whois/admin_contact
created: 2012.01.29
paid-till: 2013.01.29
free-date: 2013.03.01
source: TCI

Please read the following so that you can easily identify such obvious fraud web site in the future:http://fraudwatchers.org/forums/view.php?pg=fw_scamsite

For important information regarding these commodities frauds, please read... CLICK==> Russian Oil Product Import/Export Scam

*Update
These criminals are also using phone number 7 964 634 22 82 / 79646342282

#**977** 30 May 2012, 07:09

Have anyone heard of Rnema Russi?

Got an offer form OAO Saratovneftegaz but requires to pay some upfront fees to Rnema Russi.

I know Runema Russi is fake but haven't heard of Rnema Russi yet.

poirot · #**978** 30 May 2012, 08:57

Always post website and email addresses when asking such questions.
Googling "Rnema Russi", the only web presence are all scams...CLICK==> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22R...ient=firefox-a

Quote:

Originally Posted by grifter8

Have anyone heard of Rnema Russi?

Got an offer form OAO Saratovneftegaz but requires to pay some upfront fees to Rnema Russi.

I know Runema Russi is fake but haven't heard of Rnema Russi yet.

You are being scammed. The real Saratovneftegaz belongs to Russneft and here are their contact details andtheir website and they don't go on the Internet searching for clients, only scammers do.

What is the website and email address of the fake Saratovneftegaz you are in contact with?

The fake "Rnema Russi" is in fact the same scammer. Do they have a website?

*RNEMA = "Russian Neft and Energy Marketing Association" = Fake association, it doesn't exist.

They did have website http://www.rnemarussi.ru/ which we exposed in 2010 and is now dead, but the name is still used by scammers evidently.

sahat koeng · #**979** 1 June 2012, 15:30

Dear sir,

What about this company, can I do business with them?

Thank you.

SK1945

Mantec Export Import Sltd.
Petar Petrov CEO
UIC 201906192
VAT BG201906192
26, Yordan Nenov str.
4400 Pazardjik
Bulgaria EU
tel. +359 34 460133
fax. +359 34 460133
mob. +359 895 634117
mantecpsltd@gmail.com
pete_petrov@abv.bg
Skype: petepetrov

mysteryquest · #**980** 1 June 2012, 15:36

Well they are using a free email addresses which is a red flag. If they don't have a website they are almost surely scammers. You can do business with them but you'll get scammed. Please read:http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...pg=fw_scamsite

#**981** 1 June 2012, 18:31

Does Russneft offer Mazut, D2 and JP54?

Do they actually appoint mandates?

Has anyone have experience with Haryono Bhekti?

sahat koeng · #**982** 1 June 2012, 19:10

Dear Sir,

Thank you for the invaluable advice. That sure clear my mind a lot and save me plenty of time.

Oh Yes! How do you find out when the domain is registered?

Thank you, again.

SK1945

mysteryquest · #**983** 1 June 2012, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by grifter8

Does Russneft offer Mazut, D2 and JP54?

Do they actually appoint mandates?

Has anyone have experience with Haryono Bhekti?

There is no such thing as a "mandate." That was invented by scammers. Anyone who says they have a mandate are trying to scam you. What is the website, contact telephone number of "Haryono Bhekti"?

mysteryquest · #**984** 1 June 2012, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahat koeng

Dear Sir,

Thank you for the invaluable advice. That sure clear my mind a lot and save me plenty of time.

Oh Yes! How do you find out when the domain is registered?

Thank you, again.

SK1945

Please read: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...pg=fw_scamsite

sahat koeng · #**985** 1 June 2012, 23:35

Dear Sir,

Wow!! So many offers come my way and not even one that can be trusted. I even send letter of intent direct to the factory/refinery with my buyer's complete company and bank details and yet there is no reply.
Anyway, is there D2 in Russia for sale? If got, why it is so difficult to get Sellers, I mean genuine Sellers.

For the time being I will appreciate if could tell me about this fellow who insist that he is genuine D2 agent.

Your info will really help me and others...

Thank you.

SK1945

]Mandla Shongwe
3 Kotze Street
Braamfontein
Johannesburg, 2001
Republic of South Africa

Cell:+27(76)569-5889
Fax: +27(86)544-2632[/color]

Dodobird · #**986** 2 June 2012, 03:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahat koeng

]Mandla Shongwe
3 Kotze Street
Braamfontein
Johannesburg, 2001
Republic of South Africa

Cell:+27(76)569-5889
Fax: +27(86)544-2632[/color]

Sahat Koeng,

Did you even read the link that Mysteryquest gave you? If you had and with the information you have on this Mandla Shongwe, you would easily have seen for yourself that it's a very obvious scam;

http://www.tradeaegea.com/default.cg...counted_price/

Quote:

DISCOUNTED DIESEL
Diesel available below wholesale price

Dear Truck Owner,

We are a licensed South African Petroleum Products Wholesaler that supplies petroleum products.
Diesel accounts for the most expenses in running a truck. No need to say more about that...

We supply truck owners with diesel delivered to your yard. If you do not have tank facilities,
we can recommend a depot with good pricing, where possible.

EXAMPLE:
Have a look what 4 cent per litre saving can do for you!

R0.05 cpl x 20,000 L (average usage/month) = R800.00
12 months = R9,600.00 per year

If you are interested, please provide basic info on below form and mail back to us
Mandla Shongwe | Cell: +27 (76) 569-5889 | Fax: +27 (86) 5442632mandlashongwe22000@yahoo.com
We’ll work out a better price and/or terms to suit your budget.

Company Name:
Business Address:
Tell nr.
Cell nr.
Owner/Contact person's name:
Trucks in fleet (amount):
Diesel usage / month (Local):
Diesel usage/ month

A registered company with a free webmail address and cellular phone for contact offering a deal too good to be true? I don't think so!!

Sahat Koeng, if you don't know the market you're working in, you need to find the services of due diligence researchers, who are apt to do this work for you or you will be scammed. We are not a due diligence service and do not have the expertise to do such work, only unpaid volunteers who dedicate their free time to fighting internet fraud.

And looking for a deal that is too good to be true WILL get you scammed.

sahat koeng · #**987** 2 June 2012, 15:55

Dear Mr P

What about this fellow???

SK1945

NAME :Reem Salman
DESIGNATION:Business Development Manager
COMPANY :Al Rayan Ltd. Co.
CITY :Adliya
COUNTRY :Bahrain
SENT FROM :BAHRAIN (Derived from the IP Address of the computer where this message originated)

mysteryquest · #**988** 2 June 2012, 18:58

@ sahat koeng

Again, we need a website, if any, a telephone number and an email address if we are going to try to help you. Posting a name is useless as scammers impersonate real company and agents all the time. Again, read:http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...pg=fw_scamsite!!!!!

As explained to you before, real Russian oil companies do not want for customers and thus do not send unsolicited offers. Thus, 99% of the unsolicited offers you receive will be scams!

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